For about ten minutes on MSNBC Monday, Harvard History professor Niall Ferguson offered a articulate, detailed, and biting indictment of President Obama’s handling of the crisis Egypt – and those disagreeing on the usually Obamaphilic “Morning Joe” panel could offer little of substance in response.

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  1. Ligneus says:

    Transcript at the link.

    Sample quote:

    FERGUSON: As far as I can see, President Obama’s strategic concept is “I’m not George W. Bush. Love me.”

  2. Terry says:

    I’ve read Ferguson before, but this is the first time I’ve heard him speak. What an odd accent. Glasgow+Oxford makes him sound like a colonial Canadian or Aussie.
    My main “theory of Obama” isn’t that he’s a Muslim or some kind of left-wing torpedo directed below our waterline, it’s that he is incompetent. He reached his natural level of competence when he was a state rep from an urban Chicago district. Read his famous “I am against the Iraq War” speech:

    I don’t oppose all wars. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

    What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income, to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.

    That’s what I’m opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.


    He didn’t say that Iraq was free of WMD’s. He just thought it wasn’t worth it. The administration names mentioned are recognizably Jewish, other than the hated Cheney and Rove.
    Clinton was a much smarter man than Obama. When Clinton argued for things, he didn’t invoke economics. He invoked morality. Obama invokes both morality and economics, as though borrowing a dollar to get $0.95 makes economic as well as moral sense.
    Moral decisions cost money. That is why they are called “moral decisions” and not
    economic decisions”.

  3. ligneus says:

    My main “theory of Obama” isn’t that he’s a Muslim or some kind of left-wing torpedo directed below our waterline, it’s that he is incompetent

    But you repeat yourself.

  4. ligneus says:

    Obama dog jokes from Jim Treacher.

    My favourite.

    Q: Why did @MoochelleObama forbid @BarackObma from going to the dog track? A: She wanted to keep him away from fast food. #ObamaEatsDogs

  5. ligneus says:

    If you don’t like the dog jokes, remember they started it!. From American Thinker, also contains thoughts on Obama’s origins and Muslim/third world sympathies.

    What a careful reader will take away from Barack Obama’s memoir Dreams from My Father is not only that the president used to eat dog meat, but more importantly, that he identifies with dog-eaters. He wants us to understand that he is one of them. Obama’s most severe critics on the right think of Obama as a socialist, for example, Dinesh D’Souza, or Stanley Kurtz in his exhaustively-researched book Radical-in-Chief. Obama used to attend the annual “Socialist Scholars Conference” in New York, which was a hard-core affair; I went to a couple of them, and they weren’t for the curious. But there is something far more visceral, more existential to the president’s dislike of the United States, and that arises from his early residence in the Third World, and his identification with the people of the Third World whose lives are disrupted by the creative destruction that America has unleashed.
    Obama is the son of a Kenyan Muslim father, the stepson of an Indonesian Muslim, and the child, most of all, of an American anthropologist who devoted her career to protecting Indonesian traditional life against the depredations of the global marketplace. Her doctoral dissertation, “Peasant blacksmithing in Indonesia: surviving against all odds,” celebrated traditional cultures hanging on desperately in the face of the global economic marketplace.
    Ms. Dunham was not only a Communist fellow-traveler, but the sort of 1960s woman who (as we used to say) “put her body on the line,” first by marrying two Third World men, and then by spending her career in the Third World. It is no surprise that Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.

  6. Terry says:

    Remember how Palin was supposed to be too stupid to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency?
    Jonah Goldberg on Biden:

    The problem is that Biden insists that he does know what it means. One
    of his favorite ways to emphasize his seriousness is to say, “and I mean literally,
    not figuratively,” as if “literally” meant “I’m really serious” and “figuratively”
    connoted some effeminate lack of conviction. He says JFK’s “call to service literally, not figuratively, still resounds from generation to generation.” He told students in Africa, “You are the keystone to East Africa — literally, not figuratively,
    you are the keystone.” “The American people are looking for us as Democrats,” he has said. “They’re looking for someone literally, not figuratively, to restore
    America’s place in the world.” Speaking at a rally for Senator Patty Murray, he
    said, “I have now gone into 110 races around the country, and everywhere I go I
    see ordinary people who play by the rules, get everything right, paid their mortgage, showed up in their school helping their kids, made sure that they did everything
    they could to save to get their kid to college, took their mom and dad in when
    they needed help and hoped to save a little bit of money so they wouldn’t have to
    rely on their own kids when the time came.” Here’s the kicker: “And all of a sudden,
    all of a sudden — literally, not figuratively — they were decimated.” If they
    were literally decimated, Biden doesn’t just see ordinary people, he sees dead people.
    But only one for every nine among the living.

  7. R. de Haan says:

    This is what I have been saying for years now.
    Isn’t it boring?

  8. Beano says:

    Do you get the feeling that at the end of the interview all those on the floundering MSNBC panel would have rather had the cameras turned off or a quick transfer to an adbreak had taken place?

    Do you think he will be invited back?

    • ligneus says:

      It’s easy for them to ridicule the likes of Glenn Beck, but Niall Ferguson, Oxford, Harvard, there’s not much they can do.
      Except not invite him back.

  9. ligneus says:

    From Powerline.

    Oh what a tangled we we weave…….

    ONE MORE THING: Muslims don’t eat dogs. Barack Obama lived with a Muslim stepfather in a Muslim area of Indonesia. Dogs were not eaten there; presumably not in Obama’s Muslim household. So Obama’s claim in his autobiography that he ate dog in Indonesia may well be false–an error introduced by Bill Ayers or whoever actually wrote Obama’s autobiography. But it is way too late now for Obama to disavow the autobiography that he allegedly wrote.

    • ligneus says:

      Oops! tangled web

    • sz says:

      oh oh delight delight
      maybe he’s dyslexic
      maybe Bill Ayers is
      maybe he meant to say,
      “In Obama Sr.’s Muslim household, young Obama ate god.”

        • sz says:

          well, I followed links and from what I followed, it seems that, um, well, the first word that comes to my mind is, um, phrase, um, locally grown jihadist… Of course that’s a gross exaggeration, right? I mean, bombs and stuff… nail bombs… neh, that must be no more than peacable fiddling about with interesting combinations of things to see what happens if… right? This is the man who wrote the book? Putting all the bits and pieces together, is it any wonder the book sounds the way it sounds?

    • Beano says:

      The Indonesians eating dog would not be Muslims (at least overtly). The areas were dog is openly eaten are more Christian areas. In North Sumatera the favourite dog dish is called “Satsang”.
      Incidentally the ethnic group in North Sumatera who eat dog has also some cannibal origins.

      Having said that. If you are an expat in Indonesia and have a pet dog, it’s wise to keep that dog in sight or confined at all times

      • R. de Haan says:

        Same goes for expats and tourists in China.
        Never point at your dog and your mouth with the intention the staff will serve the dog with some water and food.

        Big chance they serve your own dog for dinner(Lol)

  10. Ligneus says:

    One of the best lines lately was from a retired shop foreman at the old Republic Steel Plant in Cleveland , Ohio when a young black kid was being laid off.

    The black kid said to the shop foreman,
    “You’re firing me because I’m black!”

    The foreman thought a moment and said,
    “No, we hired you because you are black. We’re firing you because you are useless.”

    Sounds like a possible slogan for the 2012 election!

    We Elected You Because You’re Black,
    We’re Voting You Out Because You’re Useless.

    • R. de Haan says:

      The correct phrase would have been:

      We voted you in because we are no racists and we trusted you.
      We vote you out because you are a total fuck up, a pathetic liar who play’s the race card, who divided the American people, who has screwed up the economy with record debt, unemployment and record energy prices.

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